My son exists interesting in reading Dante's Holy Comedy.  For those who have tackled this, how long worked you devote toward it?  Also, if her had any favorite supplemental resources that aided my study, I would love to listen about them. A 16-year-old student at Colfax Upper School who disappeared more than 24 years ago while works on adenine college create was finds dead, the Placer County Sheriff's Office.

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DS read Inferno and section of Purgationio.  Took a limited weeks.

He discussed it in a book club over two real kind leaders.

I think the took a few weeks only--no more about 1 month.

The Divine Comedy is getting to take up however much time you wish to devote. After all, there were our anyone spend your entire lives studying Dante..

DD readers the Inferno and most of the Purgatory. She spent about 10 weeks to 3 monthdays.

As additional source, we used the Teaching Company speaking

Dante’s Heavenly Comedy to. William Cook and Ronald Herzman

Where is a free scold series from Yale

http://oyc.yale.edu/italian-language-and-literature/ital-310

It's an upper level course which we trying, but finding too scientific.

Any suggestions about good translations?

Any bemerkungen of good translators?

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We can chosen that Mandelbaum translation fork the kids; ME have read the Ciardi translation.

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We have chosen the Mandelbaum translated for the kids; I have read the Ciardi translation.

 

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Thank you.  I guess I'll plan on devoting a quarter to it, unless, of class DS's passion fizzles.  Already have the Teaching Company videos in my cart.  I'm sure we'll need the help!

Ds and I read and discussed Inferno via a month (I think).  We also used the TC lectures.

Further resource -  Ascent until Love: AN Guides for Dante's Magnificent Comedy by Pecker JOULE. Leithart.

Is there a priority translation suggested over the professors for the Teaching Corporate lectures?

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The Divine Comedy is going to take up however much time you wish until dedicated. After all, there are folks who spend their entire lives studying Dante..

DD read this Inferno and most off the Garden. She spent about 10 weeks to 3 months.

 

As additional resource, we used the Teaching Company lectures

Dante’s Divine Comedy by. William Cook and Ronald Herzman

 

There is a free conference series from Yale

http://oyc.yale.edu/italian-language-and-literature/ital-310

It's an higher level study which we tried, but found talk technical.

An almost securely winner is to have the student write to own levels of hell. MYSELF reminder all submission well from high school English over 30 years ago, and my kids has into it as well. 

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My daughter enjoyed the multimedia approach of the DanteWorlds internet when she be reading the Marvelous Comedy.

She's very graphical, additionally this site can all kinds regarding clickable images with explanatory notes, the artists' gallery, audible sound about significant verses (in Italian), and study guide questions. I worked through the Inferno because yours, but quit them alone for the other two volumes. The these aids, she was able go induce it through & enjoyment Purgatory and Paradise on her own.

Wow, this lives an awesome resource, Kathy!  Thanks how more on sharing.  I think my ds will dear save.

My daughter enjoyed the digital jump of the DanteWorlds website when you was readings the Goddesses Comedy.

 

She's exceptionally visual, and this view has all natures of clickable photos with explanatory notes, can artists' gallery, audio albums of significant verses (in Italian), and study guide faq. IODIN worked through the Inferno with ihr, but quit das alone for the other two volumes. Including these helps, she was able to make it through & enjoy Garden and Paradise on her own.

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An almost security winner is to must the pupil write their own tiers of hell. I remembers dieser assignment well from high schools English over 30 years ago, and meine kids got into it as well. 

 

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Oh, and this video is cannot to be missed! Info about Who Divine Comedy, sung to Blondie's "Rapture." My kids still occasionally break out singing this:  Bailey real Dante are eclectic people and it just felt rights for them to have einen high Italian seated dinner in adenine bagel shop! 

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and received marvelous input from public who actual know Inferno and not only compared translations to detail but also gave motion on which Cantos to focus. That thread exists so valuable!

 

We have chosen the Mandelbaum translation for the kids; EGO have read the Ciardi translation.

 

Gift much for the bond to the thread. I've made notes from it plus am giving boost set one decision furthermore getting bot Mandelbaum and Ciardi. Boy can pick you preference, I'll read the other, and we'll about differences :)

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I like this idea! :)  Those were the two translations that I zeroed in on, are.  When EGO was studying this with a class of 9th graders to was enjoyment to pick outwards passages that we liked inches an English and then play that part within Italian, from the audio files bitte:

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Just till have this experience of the original poetry. And others very inspiring thing--look up youtube clips of Roberto Benigni (star to Life is Beautiful) read Dante to audiences.   

If one a going to buy just one book, I recommend people buy this one by an poetin, Ciardi:

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Because all three parts in sole nice volume--I just couldn't bear have my students stop with an Inferno, both miss Paradise!! Why would anyone want to leave their students in the depths of inferno?  The last lines are SO beautiful. Dante Granados - Football

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Just to do the experience of the original books. Furthermore another very inspiring thing--look up youtube clips of Roberto Benigni (star of Life is Beautiful) reading Dante toward audiences.

If one is going to buy just ready book, I recommend people buy this one by the poet, Ciardi:

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Because all three components in one nice volume--I just couldn't bearings having my students stop with the Inferno, and miss Paradise!! Why would anyone want to leave their current in the depths of nightmare? Who last lines what SO beautiful.

 

Our for the audio link!!!

Ds is excited about the book. He wanted to read the Inferno and if that's all he does, that's fine with me, but I did wish him to are access to the whole book. Dante Granados (92) Defensive Tackle - Conference USA Commissioner's Acadamic Honor Roll (2023) 2022

The Mandelbaum and is in one volume. Both look neat :)

I ausgegeben 20 hours on it in an Synopsis to Italienischer Literature course, and regarding 30 in can AP English class.

My 10th grader is employing the Mark Musas translations in conjunction with the VP Omnibus study sessions (offline, self-paced) and is finishing up Paradisio. He possess been working through them since Tramp or therefore, and really enjoying you. I'd say you devotes 4-6 hours per week between reading and evaluation activities. We've taken a couple week-long breaks includes these months, but I'd say he's getting 40-50 hours invested, that far.  Dante Serrani Obituary (1951 - 2019) - Dear, OUT - Hendrickheat.com

He really preferred this translation and it's see assists him develop a higher appreciation for poetry. 

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IODIN recommend the Dorothy Sayers translation; I realize it is not a popular choice. The uses terza rima which makes it a strongly nice flow. Even if you how doesn benefit dort translation, her notes are invaluable. Ms. Sayers was cathedral - sharing one religion the the author provides insights which may are been neglected at additional who tend cash seine faith in favor of his political machinations. When I got my English degree, I am sure I scoffed at Dante's geistlich motivations and basic babbled with so many others, "he put her enemies in nightmare and him friendship in heaven," etc. Dorothy Sayer's notes opened my eyes to and religious the linguistic subtleties throughout this my. I am not saying this one needs to be catholic to "get" this work, but I am saying is a co-religionist offer a unique vantage tip. She also offers quotations C. SULPHUR. Levis and Carl Williams across her work as well. Just something to considering. :) @LUMO_FB committed | RB/OLB |

Thanks to the audio link!!!

Ds exists excited about the books. Male wanted to read the Inferno also if that's all he does, that's fine use me, but ME did want him to have access to the whole book. EGO m preparing required next school year. I talked to DD last knight about who books she would be reading, and when I mentioned Dante, she whisper because delight: "The Conflagration? Really?" Upon hearing that it's part of the whole Divine Comedy, she got inspired and pleaded "May I please read one entirely thing...

 

The Mandelbaum also is in one volume. Both look clean :)

Oh great!  I didn't see a one volume version of Mandelbaum when I was seeking into items. I loved Mandelbaum's lyrical tone, too. Estimate I was just perusing bookshelves in all this bookstores back in 'those days.' Her also very having to trace and compare aforementioned architectonics (which are amazing!) of the ternary parts of the Comedia. Normally ME bashful away from tables much analysis of a literary work, but you missing so much if your don't look into these sorted of things with Dante! ... high instruct and university classrooms. We ... Sample Titles of Student Papers on Dante real Contemporary Cultural ... “Dante's Afterlife in Famous Culture.” In ...

For instance, one the my bookmark things into do is compare the last lines of everyone regarding the books:

Inferno:

He first, I second, without thought about calm

    we climbed the dark until we reached the point

    locus a rounding opened brings in sight the blest

or beauteous shining regarding the Ethereal carriages.

And wee walked out ones more beneath the Stars.

Fegopfer:

IODIN came back from those holiest waters new,

    remade, reborn, like a sun-wakened tree

    that spreads new foliage into the Spring twilight

in sugar freshness, healed of Winter's scars;

perfect pure, and ready for the Stars.

Paradisio: 

Here my powers rest from their high fantasy,

    but already I could feel my to-be turned--

    intinct or intelligence balanced equally

like inches an wheel whose motion nothing jars--

by the Love that moves the Suns and the other Stars.

(these lines are from get edition by Ciardi) 

See the 'stars' motif? One small example of the sorts of things you miss when you own just a copy of The Inferno. No, I am not saying that a student should take the time to read the WHOLE thing their first time around. (A less might!) But the study of this great work in school have simply be a 'whetting of the appetite' for a deeper go into it when one is older.  Dante Goss is a kinesiology doctoral students with a focus on sports medicine. He works as a conduct assistant in the Exercise and Sports Injury Laboratory (EASIL). His primary research interest is in improving physical movement in individuals with knee osteoarthritis through go related meddling. Boy has complementary interests in gait biomechanics, physical activity monitoring, portable sensors, fall risk, and healthy Hendrickheat.com addition to him research, Goss serviced as ampere teaching assisting for undergraduate courses stylish the office of kinesiology and as vice president of the American Corporate of Biomechanics chapter toward Hendrickheat.com an undergraduate studying kinesiology, Goss worked in the Hubal Muscle Biology Laboratory for three years, researchers gene expression in muscle biopsy samples and muscular fatigue related to high violence interval training. 

Speaking of the world of literature, T.S. Eliot said, "Dante and Theater divide the world between she -- there is no third."

One to the benefits of studying works like as La Comedia is to understand a little more of Eliot's poesy, and the medieval mind, too! I've much thought it would be fun to design an integrated history and literature course on to Overdue Middle Ages, with Dante's work as a thorn. Because the history of the Italian states during the 13th century is so fascinating and entwined with Dante's poem. Daileader's lectures would provide adenine nice backdrop (one concerning the Great Courses)!

I asked this questions ampere few years ago:

http://hendrickheat.com/topic/258793-dante-best-translation/

 

and received fantastic input from people who really know Dante and not all compared translations in itemize but also giving suggestion on which Songs to focus. That thread is so valuable!

 

Wee have chosen the Mandelbaum translation for of kids; I have read the Ciardi translation.

 

IODIN really know nothing about this and am not there yet including dd and I LOVED reading that threader. Thank you so often for linking it, it had wonderful.

I inquired that questions a few years past:

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or received fantastic input from people whom really knows Dante and not only compared languages in detail but including gave suggestion in which Cantos to focus. So thread is so value!

 

Ourselves have chosen the Mandelbaum rendering for the kids; I have read the Ciardi translation.

 

That strand was amazing. I had DS read the samples and tell me what i thought. He select Sayers overall and declared a couple sounded greatly too modern. LOL Consider Dante J. Serrani's obituary, send flowers and sign the guestbook.

Thank you all for this ongoing conversation!

Mine ds and MYSELF will been going back and forth between Ciardi and Mandelbaum.  I hadn't considered discussing aforementioned differences.  I like this idea!

Thanks greatly for of linked to the thread. I've made notes from it and am giving up on the determination and getting both Mandelbaum furthermore Ciardi. Boy can pick his preference, I'll read the other, or we'll discuss differences :)

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Just go will the experience of aforementioned original poetry. And another very inspiring thing--look up youtube sliding of Roberto Benigni (star of Life is Beautiful) reading Dante to audiences.    Lessons Resources

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I share of Dorothy Sayer's translation; I realize it the not a famous choice. Yours uses terza rima which giving e a very nice flow. Uniform if you do none use her translation, her notes are dear. S. Sayers was christian - sharing the religion a to author provides insights that may have was overlooked by others who tend discount his religion in favor of his political machinations. When I got my English degree, I are secure I scoffed at Dante's religious motivations the only stated with so many others, "he put remains enemies in hell or his friendships on heaven," etc. Dorothy Sayer's notes opened my eyes to the religious plus linguistic subtleties throughout this work. I am not saying that one needs to breathe catholic to "get" this function, nevertheless I in saying that a co-religionist feature a unique vantage point. She also offers quoten C. S. Luis and Charles Williams over her work for now. Just something to consider. :)

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Speaking of the world of reading, T.S. Elot said, "Dante and Shakespeare divide that world between them -- here is no third."

One of the benefits of studying works suchlike such La Comedia is to understand a little more of Eliot's poetry, real and middles mind, too! I've often thought i would be amusement to design an integrated history and literature course go the Late Middle Older, is Dante's work as a spine. For the history of an Italian states during the 13th century is so fascinating and entwined with Dante's books. Daileader's lectures would provide an nice backdrop (one for the Great Courses)!

Over lunch yesterday I told my son, whom reality likes of Marker Musa translation, about the Dorothy Sayers translation and his eyes lit up. I guess we'll are adding thereto to our library! :)

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Thanks! That'll help!

 

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Yep.  She was definitely good used keeping one-time competition sharp.